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Alien Grand Master
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 Posted: Mar 13, 2009 7:36:41 pm |
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lets not make some points closer to your base because then it will seem like capture the flag you should just have randomly all over the map like one maybe close but hard to defend. |
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chocobaba
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| Posted: Mar 13, 2009 11:17:44 pm |
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domination games are fun lol, and both ideas seem both really good, perhaps if both turn out good, you could possibly make a single point, and triple point game mode, kind of like the ctf and 1-ctf modes you got, just puttin out an idea lol |
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 1:14:44 am |
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yeah tho the maps with 3 points should have to need totaly diffrent maps becuase ctf maps are kinda small. |
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Windebieste
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 2:27:42 am |
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That is what testing will prove. Some maps may be suited to single Domination points and others may be better suited to multiple points. We shall see when this mode gets tested.
-Windebieste. |
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 6:13:03 am |
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Well, that would be today, 20:00 GMT 
It will be the first time trying this concept for AvP2, so I really have no idea how it will work. |
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chocobaba
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 2:23:44 pm |
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no one ever really knows how something will turn out the first time lol, thats what testers are for  |
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 7:06:42 pm |
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so far as i see its good i just hate how it keeps spamming that the red team has domomated or somthing. |
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 8:12:30 pm |
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Hmm, I think for US I have listed a wrong hour. You guys went on summer time, right? We didn't switch yet ... |
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 14, 2009 8:14:44 pm |
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Server's up!
Because Domination is not a valid game type, the master server will not register the server. You will have to join by IP. Sorry for the inconvenience.
IP is 79.116.201.95
port is 27888
Hope to see you there! |
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 15, 2009 12:02:38 am |
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Bugs
-spamming bug the thing spamm the message over and over again once your on it.
-gets stuck on one team after a while and no one can change it.
-in freefly you can swoop in and capture the points this apilles to all game tybes.
Evac Bugs
-in freefly all flags can be taken.  ghost coming out of no where stealing all your preeicse flags.
-assault objects can be destoryed
-CTF flags are still there and can be captured for points.
-not really a bug but when ever you change character you go into freefly and its anyoing. |
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ARCHellraiser
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 15, 2009 3:22:32 pm |
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i can just see facing fortress with 16 players on domination this mod was desigined for 4 to 12 players too little their isn't really a team too much the maps can't hold that many. |
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 15, 2009 4:07:17 pm |
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Bugs
-spamming bug the thing spamm the message over and over again once your on it.
-gets stuck on one team after a while and no one can change it.
-in freefly you can swoop in and capture the points this apilles to all game tybes.
Evac Bugs
-in freefly all flags can be taken. ghost coming out of no where stealing all your preeicse flags.
-assault objects can be destoryed
-CTF flags are still there and can be captured for points.
-not really a bug but when ever you change character you go into freefly and its anyoing.
Well, I do have some good news:
- the message will not get spammed anymore
- in freefly you will not be able to trigger any objectives. Be it CTF, One Flag CTF or Domination.
- no more domination points in Evac. Basically no more non-evac stuff in evac: flags, domination points, assault objectives.
There are still 2 issues that have to be solved:
- blocking a trigger. I'll see if I can add some debuggig info, I am not sure what happened there.
- changing classes => freemode. I'll see if I can relax this a bit, so that only if you change teams you go in free mode.
And yes, I also liked domination. As opposed to CTF or 1FCTF, Domination is much more fast paced. This is as close to the original AvP2 it terms of pacing.
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Ah, forgot to answer Hellraiser. Sorry about that.
You do have a point regarding the tracers. I remember setting them like one out of 5 bullets. Perhaps they need to be even less than that.
Regading the shotgun, I was thinking at reducing the sprad to half. I mean at the moment it is set as in the original game, at 60 degrees. When making Ballistic 2, I noticed that half of that (30 degrees) makes it a better weapon, without making it absurdly accurate. We'll try that value.
Toasty/Pyro seemed happy with the flamer. I mean each time we met, I died . But anyway, sure, we can try that.
You see, the good thing of having more people joining is that it is easier to test such changes.
Regarding the speed to which you get points, thats a tough one  . Alien Grand Master suggested 2 minutes, while most likely you'd go for 30 seconds.
It's tougher to balance that, because if the domination areas are far in between, it will make it harder to reach them in time to conquer them from the enemy.
What I suggest instead is to play with a point limit of 30, and a time limit of 15 minutes. We need to tweak up these values, so I am counting on you next week |
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chocobaba
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 15, 2009 8:25:20 pm |
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no make the time limit 30 or 40 becuase your game clock is unsaully fast. |
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 16, 2009 10:40:46 am |
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Ok, we'll go for 30 seconds next time. Hmm ... just a question, would you like to have this interval configurable? I think we can make it configurable, but does it make sense to do it? |
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Alien Grand Master
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| Posted: Mar 16, 2009 7:53:40 pm |
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it should proably change from map to map like heretic it should be 30 seconds because its so small but with transmission intercept maybe it should be 1 minute and 30 seconds because it depends on the size of the map. |
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Windebieste
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| Posted: Mar 17, 2009 1:22:20 am |
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Hey, thanks once again for posting the videos. I really enjoyed 'em. Looks like the new 'Domination' mode is going to be great to play.
I noticed you got 'Evac' working within the mod, too. As this version of 'Evac' uses 'Fortress' mod components, you may want to change the name to something else as it will cause confusion to people wanting to join a game, expecting to find themselves playing in a conventional 'Evac' game and getting the 'Resources differ' error. Maybe you could call it something like 'Mixed Species Evac' or 'MS Evac' for short where appropriate in the multiplayer menus.
I also noticed that some of the spawn points may need to be rotated to face players away from walls and toward Objectives.
By the way, did you finish that Humvee model? It would be sweet to have those unimog trucks replaced with that model. We'll have to at the very least apply a Blocker to the truck on the road in 'GCF'.
Overall, it's looking good. The 2 new modes will bring the number of available modes up to 6. That's gotta be enough gameplay packed in there to keep anybody happy.
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ARCHellraiser
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| Posted: Mar 17, 2009 3:33:29 am |
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it should proably change from map to map like heretic it should be 30 seconds because its so small but with transmission intercept maybe it should be 1 minute and 30 seconds because it depends on the size of the map.
Agree on shorter time for heretic, nobody made points maybe even shorter…. but for the others that have 2 objective it takes time to get to the opposite objective.
question: In a map that has 2 objectives do BOTH have to be in control by the same team before the time counter starts...?
Option: on making it configurable, maybe for Beta testing so you can tweak the timing...BUT for release people screwing with the concept and the overall challenge of the game... think is unwise.
Once we agree on timing ...so be it...
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Herr_Alien
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| Posted: Mar 17, 2009 8:28:15 am |
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No, each point brings one score point per minute.
You want to win faster? Capture and maintain all points
But, remember: each captured location will cough up a point per minute, since each was captured. So if you capture A at 12:00:00 and B at 12:00:30, A gives up a point at 12:01:00, 12:02:00 etc and B at 12:01:30, 12:02:30 and so on. |
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Can you even see the effects of this with a full server 8 men on a side OMG!!!!!
